Concerns about intellectual property theft when using AI services

Signals over time

3 observed signals across 1 sources, tracked for 8 days. Confidence: low.

What people are saying Observed

• “I'll admit it is likely somewhat reductive, but it's an incredibly nuanced area, touching on both the copyright debate and the now-seemingly-ubiquitous behaviour of scraping the entire internet for content. Probably stamping heavily on much of the nuance, there's a certain irony in any of the frontier models complaining about others stealing their work. The secret sauce for the frontier labs may be the reasoning layer, but the secret sauce of any piece of literature is the specific ordering of the words. I hope the parallel is obvious. The frontier labs are spending record-breaking amounts of money on hardware (to the extent that they're locking out anyone else from the market, but that's beside this particular point, kinda) in order to create their service, and another company that is 'distilling' has not paid the same hardware toll. How much did it cost an author to create their literary work, which could be read and ingested for a miniscule percentage of the cost it took to create? For the benefit of the service provided by a (wannabe) multi-trillion dollar company. If the frontier labs can prevent or slow down 'distillation' actions ”

  Hacker News · complaint

• “This looks and works great, super impressed. This is what Siri/Apple AI should be like. One concern I have is about sending private info to Anthropic. So it would be great to have the option to use local AI. Local options should support the OpenAI API that seemingly is the standard for these connections, as provided by Llama.app and Unsloth Studio for example. That way one could run against a local model and keep personal information private. That of course begs the question if a local model is smart enough for the tasks at hand. I'm also trying out OOMU, a similar but closed source personal assistant app for MacOS. It emphasizes privacy with local models, and even has an 'Airplane' mode. The app has a built in llama.cpp server and uses Gemma-4-4B, their own router model plus a vision model.”

  Hacker News · request

• “The Navier-Stokes fiasco made me push for local/controlled models very hard. "Can't rule out" that they stole data (backed up by their backdoor offers of sharing credit). If these companies will steal from deep pockets like Disney or Sony (some of the most infamously litigious copyright trolls to ever exist), they won't think twice of stealing every bit of code you upload to them. If your code passes through an AI company's servers, you can assume you just gave it to them. In turn, when your competitor tries to copy that new feature you just added, the AI is now trained in exactly how to copy you and eliminate your competitive edge. Unlike your employees, the AI isn't bound by the same rules and even if it were and violated them, your company probably doesn't have enough money to prove it in court (and that's if we somehow reverse some of the stupid "AI is the most transformative use of copyright I've ever seen" judges who have drunk the coolaid). Most companies could build the compute to run GLM or Kimi models for way less than the potential loss due to IP theft from using third-party systems.”

  Hacker News · complaint